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Proper Claiming of Conquests with the New Streamlined Edition

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Briseadh
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Posted On: 11/17/2017 at 10:56 AM
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Foghladha has done a great job of simplifying the GW2 leadership claiming of Conquests. This is my attempt to summarize how to use it due to seeing that even in the simplified form, it is not being used correctly on some objectives. I even had to confirm a few things with Fog before I wrote this up because I do not want to give you incorrect information.

First, the great thing is that the types of objectives to be claimed have been separated so if you are doing WvW or PVP you are not searching for those icons in the mix with the PvE ones. We even have the Guild Missions in their own section for ease.

Second, we still have the wonderful list on the right to tell use the rank of Warlord you need to be in order to claim the objective. The Warlord ranking is setup so you start out small and work your way up to the big stuff in order to learn. The first rank up is easy to get after leading ten small events. Check your title on the website to the warlord rank list to see which rank you are. It is the last word in your title if you have done any leading at all. For example, my rank ends with Corcra (Purple) which is a rank 5 on the list.

Let’s first look at the layout of screen where you chose your conquests. This will look different as the icons can spread out more or shrink in more based on the size you have your browser window set at.

 

Most of these do not have any information on the tool tip other than its title due to it matching the icon you will see on the map for an event. The matching icon and name will be in the list to the right to tell you what Warlord rank you need to claim the objective.

To add the objective to your event, you simply left click on its icon and it should show up in the list below the icons. (mine is empty in the picture above). Once the event is completed you can scroll down to click End Event under the list. You cannot add an objective you are not the proper rank for, so it is a good idea to be sure of your rank and what you can do before leading a Conquest.

The reason to select the proper icon for the objectives you have completed is that everything is tracked for what we are doing overall in the game. If things are not properly claimed, it skews the information and also does not provide the proper points to you or your followers.

NOTE 1: We now have an icon for Path of Fire Bounty Hunts. Please use this and not the assassination and minor boss icons that you have been using. 

 

World Bosses and How To Identify and Claim Them

One of the common places for confusion is how to Identify what is or is not a world boss. A complete world boss list can be found at: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/World_boss for easy reference. World Bosses in Guild Wars 2 are grouped into 4 types. Epic World Bosses, Legendary World Bosses, Champion World Bosses, and Temples. Each World Boss will drop a big chest on the ground which can be looted daily on each character. If a creature does not drop a chest on the ground they are not considered a world boss and should be logged as a generic event type. For our systems purpose we have separated out the world bosses into 3 groups: Epic World Bosses (), Minor World Bosses (), and Temples ().

One of the driving factors for keeping Epic World Bosses separate from others is the fact that since Gaiscioch began tracking Epic Creature kills back in Warhammer Online, we have placed the fiercest foes in this objective type so that we can get an accurate count of how many boss creatures we've killed that require coordination of more than 50 people. These are typically large scale events that require a great deal of planning and coordination to complete.

That said, the moment content goes live, typically it gets progressively easier to complete. The same is true with any games. A great example is Asha Catari in Rift. We made 9 attempts on Asha's life in Meridian before we finally completed it. It took 4 raid groups to down her, 2 focused on PvP and 2 focused on killing Asha. This same fight today is soloable. It is rare they hold up to the test of time.

 Epic World Bosses (Gold Name, Custom Art Nameplate)

Each Epic World Boss can be found at the top of the Wiki under the Epic Heading. They will all have a Gold Name and Unique Custom Art above their name. 


 Minor World Boss (Champion or Legendary with Ground Chest)

The Minor World Bosses can be found on the wiki listed as Legendary or Champion World Bosses. They each will drop a daily chest on the ground which is lootable once per character per day.

 Temples

These are found throughout Orr and feature a chain of events that lead to the killing of a legendary avatar of a god. There are 5 temples including: Temple of Balthazar, Cathedral of Eternal Radiance (Lyssa), Cathedral of Zephyrs (Dwayna), Temple of Melandru, and Temple of Grenth. 

More information about temples can be found at: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Temple 

Addition Note on Claiming Pre Events

You are able to mark the standard generic objective for each of the pre events but you should not mark the Boss event as a generic. Each Objective you claim is a Either/Or not an And. You should only mark 1 per victory. So you can claim assaults, gathering, defense objectives leading up to the boss, but the boss itself will use its own objective marker rather than a generic one.

Full list of Objectives

You can find a full list of objectives at: https://www.gaiscioch.com/about/fellowship_ranks.html 

In Closing

If you have any questions about the use of this system and how to properly claim your objectives, do not hesitate to ask Foghladha, an elder or a ranking event leader. You can see what ranks people are on discord by where their name shows on the right hand side of Discord when they are logged in. This is to help you find the people you may need to talk to for the answers.

NOTE: Pictures and info updated 11/20/17

Last Edited on: 11/20/2017 at 12:01 PM
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Yobam
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Replied On: 11/18/2017 at 12:41 PM PST
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I have one question. Is Bounty Hunt used for Champion Bounties and Legendary Bounties or would Legendary be Minor World Boss. The difficulty between the two bounties is rather substantial. Just a question. Thanks ahead of time.

Last Edited on: 11/18/2017 at 01:21 PM
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Replied On: 11/18/2017 at 08:16 PM PST
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Yobam,

Legendaries should NOT be marked as World Bosses. World Bosses track how many times we as a community have organzied assaults against the Epic World Bosses in the Game including:

  • Shadow Behemth
  • Fire Elemental
  • Great Jungle Wurm
  • The Shatterer
  • Amber Great Jungle Wurm
  • Cobalt Great Jungle Wurm
  • Crimson Great Jungle Wurm
  • Tequatl the Sunless
  • Inquest Golem Mark II
  • Claw of Jormag
  • Mordrem Vinewrath
  • Mordremoth
  • King Crab

Each of these world bosses has their own unique nameplate. ONLY these objectives should EVER be claimed as world bosses. Otherwise you contaminate our numbers with false positives and award people credit for a 40+ person event when it was really a 10-20 person event. I have tried to make this clear in every place I can, yet people seem to be very intent on misusing the World Boss objective. Legendary Creatures are not World Bosses. 

Path of Fire Bounty Hunts should only be marked as Bounty Hunt. It is possible in the future I may add a legendary version of bounty hunt but please don't jimmy rig the system as it messes up the data and makes things inaccurate.

 

 

Last Edited on: 11/18/2017 at 08:41 PM
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Yobam
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Replied On: 11/19/2017 at 06:20 AM PST
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Thanks Fog. I know I've read it before. I just wanted to be sure. I've only lead champ bounties once after PoF initially came out, so figured I would ask. New system looks great by the way.

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Replied On: 11/19/2017 at 08:02 AM PST
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Very helpful and informative, Bri - Thanks!  

Also, its just my own humble opinion but I completely agree with this, "EDIT NOTE: It has been determined that Path of Fire Bounty Hunts should be Elite instead of Epic objectives. It was just changed this evening, 11/17 at 5:45ish pst. :D So once you get past your first 10 events you will be able to claim these. "

I was able to attend my first of Bounty hunts yesterday under Mika's awesome leadership and then I shockingly joined in a pug group late last night.  These GW2 Bounty bosses are no joke!  A few of them have mechanics that certainly make these mobs not a faceroll (Yes, I'm thinking of you Mr. Champion Heal-Yourself-Every-20%).

:D Zoe

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What are considered "Minor world Boss"? I know the major.

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And here we are still discombobulated by the minor boss. 

Some of the things I can think of already have their own symbol for the taking of temples in Orr and the PoF bounties. 

One thing I will check is some of the named bosses in the LS3 zones that definitely are not epic, but appear to fall in a 10 man boss scenario rather than a 4 man assassination. I only know of one type per map and I'm not sure all of these maps have one BIG thing. I know BloodStone Fen's Ghostly Justicar might fall in this and the big fiery wurm in Ember Bay, but I need to double check these.

I don't know HoT zones well enough other than Dragonstand where all events are using the appropriate orange header until you get to Epic Mordremoth, so no minor ones in Dragonstand that I know of.

Not sure how things go with the big event that you need a three prong attack on in Silverwastes, but I think the last thing needs a 10 man to defeat.

Anyway, that's my thinking on what  minor boss probably is, but verification is needed in how things work now. I have to admit the Shadow Behemoth falls in the Epic, but he so does not feel epic anymore due to the gear we can have. He's a baby epic now to me. LOL!

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Bri. Please link the world boss wiki. https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/World_boss   They have a list of all the minor world nosses. They are all the Legendary and Champion World Bosses. Theres no guesswork. On the wiki you have a list of every Epic World Boss, then below they list Legendary and Champion. The Legendary and Champion list is the minor world boss list. 

Last Edited on: 11/20/2017 at 07:47 AM
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PIctures of Gaiscioch leadership panel and notes updated in main post. Link for list of world bosses is added to NOTE2 which is about world bosses. 

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Replied On: 01/02/2018 at 04:44 PM PST
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Ok, so thinking of Bandit Hunt then - the legendary Bandit Executioner would still be an assassination event and NOT a minor world boss, correct?

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Replied On: 01/02/2018 at 07:43 PM PST
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Correct, bandits and encoded orders are part of the "Side stories" and not actual world bosses, so they should be claimed as the same type of event they show up as, so assasination it is!

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Thanks for answering Kitty. As Fog has explained and added to this work, the bosses have very obvious target bars.

I would like to iterate there are till people claiming PoF bounties at minor world bosses. Sure they are 10 points more, but you are skewing the records and not being fair to those that are claiming these properly in the system.  This is all an honor system and I'm not trying to be the police force, but please follow the instructions. Thank you!

Don't hesitate to question things when claiming (as lead or participant) and definitely ask an elder if something seems incorrect or is confusing.

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Replied On: 01/12/2018 at 02:48 PM PST
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And on the other hand, if you notice me ever mis-posting anything, please don't hesitate to pull me aside and let me know.  I've never noticed the name plate thing before, I'll be sure to watch for it....I'm usually too busy worrying about the encounter :D

 

 

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